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		<title>By: Ric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m confused by your comment.

&quot;No one can do anything right in Miami&quot;

or

&quot;I&#039;m so over all the haters...&quot;

What are you trying to say?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm confused by your comment.</p>
<p>"No one can do anything right in Miami"</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>"I'm so over all the haters..."</p>
<p>What are you trying to say?</p>
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		<title>By: LOL</title>
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		<dc:creator>LOL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one can do anything right in Miami, the same people that say they support the arts are the ones that bash it. Subpar yes, but no one else is even trying to put together something like this. I&#039;m so over all the haters in Miami!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one can do anything right in Miami, the same people that say they support the arts are the ones that bash it. Subpar yes, but no one else is even trying to put together something like this. I'm so over all the haters in Miami!</p>
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		<title>By: Phew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 05:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so glad I wasn&#039;t the only one who thought this festival was way subpar.
I had to review it, and I almost didn&#039;t want to because I wanted to write a good review but had no material to do so...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who thought this festival was way subpar.<br />
I had to review it, and I almost didn't want to because I wanted to write a good review but had no material to do so...</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 02:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel the pain that everybody is sharing, I knew before hands that It wont work, if the production is not done right . I try to work a nice Audio and lighting production in the past for SOHO but we ended dealing with  cheap promoters with no experience, and because all they care is make $$$$ without considering quality and respect for the audience, we didn&#039;t got the projects, I produce in the past many shows and tour with many Artist, the equipment and the Sound Quality is available in Miami, we have it, Im open to discuss a new Festival if we can put the right promotional team to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel the pain that everybody is sharing, I knew before hands that It wont work, if the production is not done right . I try to work a nice Audio and lighting production in the past for SOHO but we ended dealing with  cheap promoters with no experience, and because all they care is make $$$$ without considering quality and respect for the audience, we didn't got the projects, I produce in the past many shows and tour with many Artist, the equipment and the Sound Quality is available in Miami, we have it, Im open to discuss a new Festival if we can put the right promotional team to work.</p>
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		<title>By: d0za</title>
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		<dc:creator>d0za</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^ I&#039;m down. If its setup right.



Message me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^ I'm down. If its setup right.</p>
<p>Message me.</p>
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		<title>By: Kera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are some really talented Festival Companies out there and Sound Engineers in this city, that have been doing successful shows for artist here for a long time!! We should form a local union with Miami&#039;s best artists, sound engineers, production companies, promoters, etc... If we put the $$$ aspect aside and get this done right... we can make an impact... we should organize a meetup and start coming together on this one! Im about to leave my job in the legal industry to do Artist Managment and Public Relations, I know this can be done right!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some really talented Festival Companies out there and Sound Engineers in this city, that have been doing successful shows for artist here for a long time!! We should form a local union with Miami's best artists, sound engineers, production companies, promoters, etc... If we put the $$$ aspect aside and get this done right... we can make an impact... we should organize a meetup and start coming together on this one! Im about to leave my job in the legal industry to do Artist Managment and Public Relations, I know this can be done right!!</p>
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		<title>By: d0za</title>
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		<dc:creator>d0za</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 03:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>House parties need to come back. 

All this &#039;promoter-dealing&#039; bullshit won&#039;t stop when you have all these people involved in putting together an event. A promoter is merely a peon when they have to take the final word from the &#039;owner&#039; of the venue. 

personally i think the musicians are to blame as well for letting things get slacked. 

These &#039;promoters&#039; (or non-musicians who want to put on a musical event)
clearly don&#039;t give a rats ass about your band, or anything other than the money to be made for that evening. 

- Showing up late
- Not paying
- Over-promising
- Lack of communication
- No understanding for what it is to be in a band (i.e the packing and unpacking of equip... setting up sound... backlining.... etc)
- disappearing in the event (to go get high or something)
- over booking bands for the night
- booking bad bands to play in an illogical lineup (horrible flow)
- booking an act for 1:30/2:00AM slot.... seriously how does this make sense?
- not being clear about what they can and can&#039;t do for you


These are all the things I&#039;ve had to deal with in my very short time here in the &#039;scene&#039; and i feel they need to be put in check because we all know its a very small pool of people involved in the &#039;miami-music scene&#039;.

I don&#039;t know how to fix it (still not sure), but I do know what i have experienced here and i&#039;m pretty sure you all have as well. 



Theres places one could rent out (ballrooms, salons, 15&#039;s places)... 
you charge tickets
you sell drinks (check ID)
this can be setup by an actual band.
book a few bands
DJ is a must for the downtime (or some kind of music from a source that isn&#039;t a live instrument)
All the money goes right to the people who planned it (only to do it all over again)
Its a private party. So its not open to the public (which is why you can pull it off)


An old man told me about this.... just a thought. Easier said than done, I know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>House parties need to come back. </p>
<p>All this 'promoter-dealing' bullshit won't stop when you have all these people involved in putting together an event. A promoter is merely a peon when they have to take the final word from the 'owner' of the venue. </p>
<p>personally i think the musicians are to blame as well for letting things get slacked. </p>
<p>These 'promoters' (or non-musicians who want to put on a musical event)<br />
clearly don't give a rats ass about your band, or anything other than the money to be made for that evening. </p>
<p>- Showing up late<br />
- Not paying<br />
- Over-promising<br />
- Lack of communication<br />
- No understanding for what it is to be in a band (i.e the packing and unpacking of equip... setting up sound... backlining.... etc)<br />
- disappearing in the event (to go get high or something)<br />
- over booking bands for the night<br />
- booking bad bands to play in an illogical lineup (horrible flow)<br />
- booking an act for 1:30/2:00AM slot.... seriously how does this make sense?<br />
- not being clear about what they can and can't do for you</p>
<p>These are all the things I've had to deal with in my very short time here in the 'scene' and i feel they need to be put in check because we all know its a very small pool of people involved in the 'miami-music scene'.</p>
<p>I don't know how to fix it (still not sure), but I do know what i have experienced here and i'm pretty sure you all have as well. </p>
<p>Theres places one could rent out (ballrooms, salons, 15's places)...<br />
you charge tickets<br />
you sell drinks (check ID)<br />
this can be setup by an actual band.<br />
book a few bands<br />
DJ is a must for the downtime (or some kind of music from a source that isn't a live instrument)<br />
All the money goes right to the people who planned it (only to do it all over again)<br />
Its a private party. So its not open to the public (which is why you can pull it off)</p>
<p>An old man told me about this.... just a thought. Easier said than done, I know.</p>
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		<title>By: Queen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Queen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 01:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a nice effort. There were definately some problems. It was definately misleading. But i had a good time regardless. The bands were good and thats what really mattered. Hopefully it shines a positive light on our local music scene, but somehow, I doubt it made an impact on too many people who are not already familiar with the local music scene.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a nice effort. There were definately some problems. It was definately misleading. But i had a good time regardless. The bands were good and thats what really mattered. Hopefully it shines a positive light on our local music scene, but somehow, I doubt it made an impact on too many people who are not already familiar with the local music scene.</p>
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		<title>By: I was there</title>
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		<dc:creator>I was there</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I copied these post from COS.com.  I love the way everyone bashes the sound guys without having the correct info.  I talked to the sound guys and they told me they wanted to walk off the job but they as professional stayed and toughed it out and now it is something they will regret....


All right guys I made the call to my buddy who worked the FCF. He gave me some insight. I was correct in my thoughts. No money for the sound company and they were told that all of the bands were going to provide audio techs for themselves. The PA was on the stage where it should have been the night before and the FCF made them put it on the floor(because FCF placed the VIP stage in a bad spot and the VIPS could not see the stage) after the audio company fought with them for an hour telling FCF the sound was going to suffer. N.E.R.D and ANR were the only ones that brought a A1 with them(not for sure on this, so if others brought them I am sorry). So like i said in my last post please get as many facts as you can before you say someone sucks…

—–&gt;&gt;BDT: Thanks for clearing up the main stage sound issues…it makes perfect sense now…you could understand the frustration when you see the top flight sound equipment on stage but hear such deflating results..we (Fusik) were told there was no backline THE DAY BEFORE the show, thankfully we had no problem bringing our stuff(my drummer providing his own set as backline for the other bands, thank you Felix!) and if we would have known the whole stereo mix down thing, we would have prepared accordingly and brought some trusted ears to help nail the mix. I also guess we shouldn’t presume that we would get at least a slight soundcheck(since we were there at 3pm) or expect to have a sound guy communicating with us on how to run THEIR system…
N.E.R.D’s sound was SPECTACULAR b/c their mics and backline were up, soundchecked and left untouched the whole night….had nothing to do with their ability/inability to use the system, I’m sure the sound team made damn sure their sound was up to snuff..as it should be for the headlining artist.
When a promoter does not let the sound company do the right thing you get bad sound! The sound should never have been on the floor. It should have never been spread so far apart. It looked like the audio guys had the right gear. I do not know what happened for sure but I am a audio guy and mix for some big bands and know right from wrong. I have done shows like this before and know what these guys were dealing with. I did not see any of the bands audio guys using the FOH mixer, but they were behind the stage trying to mix? Lets not bash the audio guys when we do not really know what happened here. We do not know if the budget was small or they provided what was asked for, to many unanswered questions here. I do know the production company that did the main stage and they have higher end audio equipment sitting in there warehouse that I have used. From a audio stand point, that room is very hard to get great sound in unless you (the promoter)spends the money to get the proper equipment. He should have went for more speakers spread out in the room instead of going with the in your face approach, which did not really work. I could go on for hours about what went wrong, but do not have that much time. Just remember we do not know why or what happened that caused the sound guys to do what they did. My guess is the promoter screwed up in his planning stages and had to make something happen without thinking of what the outcome would be.

I just want to clear up a few things that I read in this blog. If the people that are bashing the sound really knew what was going on they would not be talking as much crap as they are. Last minute changes on the promoter’s side forced the sound company to put the speakers on the floor spreading them to far apart for proper coverage (because the VIP stage was to close to the main stage). The promoter also failed to tell all of the bands what they were supposed to bring i.e. all of their own backline including mixers, mics, drum kits etc… Now with that being said once the bands got all of their equipment to the venue they were responsible for sending a mixed stereo feed to the audio guys that put it out to the main PA. The bands mixed their own bands and the audio company had no control of what they (the band) were sending them, all the audio company could do is make sure that the band did not drive the system too hard. I was there and listened to most of the bands and they did not know how to send a proper mix to the PA. When N.E.R.D came on the sound was great. This is because they were using the system the proper way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I copied these post from COS.com.  I love the way everyone bashes the sound guys without having the correct info.  I talked to the sound guys and they told me they wanted to walk off the job but they as professional stayed and toughed it out and now it is something they will regret....</p>
<p>All right guys I made the call to my buddy who worked the FCF. He gave me some insight. I was correct in my thoughts. No money for the sound company and they were told that all of the bands were going to provide audio techs for themselves. The PA was on the stage where it should have been the night before and the FCF made them put it on the floor(because FCF placed the VIP stage in a bad spot and the VIPS could not see the stage) after the audio company fought with them for an hour telling FCF the sound was going to suffer. N.E.R.D and ANR were the only ones that brought a A1 with them(not for sure on this, so if others brought them I am sorry). So like i said in my last post please get as many facts as you can before you say someone sucks…</p>
<p>—–&gt;&gt;BDT: Thanks for clearing up the main stage sound issues…it makes perfect sense now…you could understand the frustration when you see the top flight sound equipment on stage but hear such deflating results..we (Fusik) were told there was no backline THE DAY BEFORE the show, thankfully we had no problem bringing our stuff(my drummer providing his own set as backline for the other bands, thank you Felix!) and if we would have known the whole stereo mix down thing, we would have prepared accordingly and brought some trusted ears to help nail the mix. I also guess we shouldn’t presume that we would get at least a slight soundcheck(since we were there at 3pm) or expect to have a sound guy communicating with us on how to run THEIR system…<br />
N.E.R.D’s sound was SPECTACULAR b/c their mics and backline were up, soundchecked and left untouched the whole night….had nothing to do with their ability/inability to use the system, I’m sure the sound team made damn sure their sound was up to snuff..as it should be for the headlining artist.<br />
When a promoter does not let the sound company do the right thing you get bad sound! The sound should never have been on the floor. It should have never been spread so far apart. It looked like the audio guys had the right gear. I do not know what happened for sure but I am a audio guy and mix for some big bands and know right from wrong. I have done shows like this before and know what these guys were dealing with. I did not see any of the bands audio guys using the FOH mixer, but they were behind the stage trying to mix? Lets not bash the audio guys when we do not really know what happened here. We do not know if the budget was small or they provided what was asked for, to many unanswered questions here. I do know the production company that did the main stage and they have higher end audio equipment sitting in there warehouse that I have used. From a audio stand point, that room is very hard to get great sound in unless you (the promoter)spends the money to get the proper equipment. He should have went for more speakers spread out in the room instead of going with the in your face approach, which did not really work. I could go on for hours about what went wrong, but do not have that much time. Just remember we do not know why or what happened that caused the sound guys to do what they did. My guess is the promoter screwed up in his planning stages and had to make something happen without thinking of what the outcome would be.</p>
<p>I just want to clear up a few things that I read in this blog. If the people that are bashing the sound really knew what was going on they would not be talking as much crap as they are. Last minute changes on the promoter’s side forced the sound company to put the speakers on the floor spreading them to far apart for proper coverage (because the VIP stage was to close to the main stage). The promoter also failed to tell all of the bands what they were supposed to bring i.e. all of their own backline including mixers, mics, drum kits etc… Now with that being said once the bands got all of their equipment to the venue they were responsible for sending a mixed stereo feed to the audio guys that put it out to the main PA. The bands mixed their own bands and the audio company had no control of what they (the band) were sending them, all the audio company could do is make sure that the band did not drive the system too hard. I was there and listened to most of the bands and they did not know how to send a proper mix to the PA. When N.E.R.D came on the sound was great. This is because they were using the system the proper way.</p>
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		<title>By: BOSTON</title>
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		<dc:creator>BOSTON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;VE BEEN TO 5 FUTURE CLASSIC IN BOSTON http://futureclassic.net/about/
READ IF YOU DON&#039;T BELIEVE.. SAME EXACT CONCEPT DONE RIGHT!

oh and I wouldn&#039;t blame the guys behind F.C.
it really is the assholes that run soho studios. they make big promises they can&#039;t keep.
I&#039;ve delt with there bull shit!! all they care about is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'VE BEEN TO 5 FUTURE CLASSIC IN BOSTON <a href="http://futureclassic.net/about/" >http://futureclassic.net/about/</a><br />
READ IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE.. SAME EXACT CONCEPT DONE RIGHT!</p>
<p>oh and I wouldn't blame the guys behind F.C.<br />
it really is the assholes that run soho studios. they make big promises they can't keep.<br />
I've delt with there bull shit!! all they care about is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$</p>
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